Why MGSV Is The Worst MGS and Completely Pointless (Spoilers)

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Why MGSV Is The Worst MGS and Completely Pointless (Spoilers)

Postby Switcheroo » Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:44 pm

Metal Gear Solid V, Konami's latest installment of the Metal Gear Solid franchise by now was leaked over a month ago and released just a little over a month ago. Selling over three million copies worldwide it has been hailed by fans of the series as the "greatest MGS" and has also been called Hideo Kojima's Magnus Opus.

Why?

The Characters:




The Gameplay:

The AI in this game is the absolute worst. For a next-gen game players should not be receiving PS2 level intelligence for the AI. And for a stealth game it should not be possible for them to spot your through walls, glitch into floors, or shoot you through walls.

While the actual gameplay mechanics and controls are by far the best in the series, it does not change how unbelievably annoying the helicopter ride and the mission credits are. Players are forced to watch opening and closing mission credits for over two-hundred missions. Not taking into consideration there are both opening and closing credits for the characters as well as for their real life counter-parts and the developers, nor taking into consideration the full opening and closing credits to the game itself, which has no less than three endings, all of which play the full credits. Even then, this is not considering all the replays of missions upon failure nor the multiple replays of the missions that are required to complete all of the objectives and 100% the game. Ground Zeroes did not do this. Peacewalker did not do this. Why did MGSV:TPP do this? Even the Konami, Kojima Pro and Fox Engine logos occupy the screen longer now upon starting the game than they have before, including in Ground Zeroes. The only logical conclusion that can be made is that these credits were added after the power struggle between Kojima and Konami. No doubt added by Kojima Productions to re-iterate over, and over, and over, and over again, hundreds of times, that there is no Metal Gear Solid without Hideo Kojima. Speaking of who, for the third time now includes himself in his Metal Gear Solid games and requires the player to embark on a mission to rescue him. Perhaps worst of all, it spoils each mission by revealing that characters such as Skull Face, Liquid, Volgin, Psycho Mantis, and the Skulls make an appearance when it's supposed to a surprise.

Furthermore, Afghanistan (and to an extent, Africa) is 80% unplayable cliff areas while the other 20% is sparsely-populated guard posts in the desert.



Left is full Afghanistan map, right is approximate playable area.

Assassins Creed (2007) featured [b]three full cities as well as wilderness in-between to explore, which was also populated by Templar soldier postings in the desert.


The Story:

The story of MGSV is perhaps the most lacking aspect of the game. Players can be forced to play for hours on end to reach the next cutscene and much of the time are rewarded with as little as a two minute cutscene. The missions are tenuously connected, with the only distinguishing factor between the "main ops" and "side ops" being the audio dialogue from Miller. "Parasites" are introduced and are nothing more than MGSV's nanomachines. The story does not actually tell the fall of Big Boss or how he became a villain, which is arguably false-advertising, and foolishly has "Chapters" when the so-called "Chapter 2" is nothing more than five missions and five mission-replays. As far as fans of the series are concerned, most don't even consider the story complete, citing the unfinished "Mission 51" which ultimately adds nothing more to the story either, other than showing Venom, the Medic, and a few other members of Diamond Dogs take Sahelanthropus back from Liquid. It's questionable why Kojima insisted on continuing forward with the plot-line that was already theorized by fans. While you did not play as Gray Fox, as most fans theorized, you did not play as Big Boss either.


Hideo Kojima asks his fans, "Did you like it?" and if they're enjoying MGSV.

I think it's safe to respond with a resounding, unanimous, "No."

Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain is a major disappointment, and at the time of writing this Konami has yet to break even on their $80m investment. For a multi-platform game, MGSV was expected to at the very least outperform MGS4, which sold the same amount upon release while being exclusive to the Playstation 3.
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Re: Why MGSV Is The Worst MGS and Completely Pointless (Spoilers)

Postby SNAAAKE » Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:37 pm

agree
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Re: Why MGSV Is The Worst MGS and Completely Pointless (Spoilers)

Postby Ottake » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:09 pm

Disagree.
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Postby Switcheroo » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:18 pm

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Postby SNAAAKE » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:01 pm

disagree about what nigga?

everything storm#1 said is on point.
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Re: Why MGSV Is The Worst MGS and Completely Pointless (Spoilers)

Postby sonomamashine » Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:26 pm

mgsv is a mess, wraped up game, unfinished alot of things missing, very repetitive : go rescue that fagget from there go rescue that tansgender go rescue that dildo specialist and it goes on and on and on.
missing tutorials, the story is ... you dont understand shit basicly you need to listen to those tapes and even that pfff what a wast of money i got a ps4 for mgo and it turns out to be shit , the ice on the cake is mgsv BS game.
im missing alot of things but you guyes get it, sry for my eng
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Re: Why MGSV Is The Worst MGS and Completely Pointless (Spoilers)

Postby SNAAAKE » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:43 pm

I am on the same boat..

bought the ps4 with so much hope lol..I mean I wasnt expecting TOO much but something reasonable. pretty sure I will end up selling my ps4. not that I am a "gamer" or anything. cant even think of any game I will play on it..
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Postby sonomamashine » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:46 pm

dont sell it, the last guardian is coming out its not online but.. gonna be a good game, the star wars battlefront beta is out if you wanna go try it
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Postby NoirDuPlay » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:13 pm

Loved the gameplay actually... Just really butthurt about the lack of story and the ending just left a really sour taste in my mouth :x
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Re: Why MGSV Is The Worst MGS and Completely Pointless (Spoilers)

Postby Race Akira » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:58 pm

All so true from storm and everyone else here, except for the guy who disagree. I also agree on how mgsv is the worst in the series. Cutscenes are short, boring and unexcited. Comes every 1000 mission . Venom snake barely talks, and when he does he's very quietly and hard to understand him. Having to ride helicopter there and back on every mission is very annoying and stupid. Every mission felt like a stupid side op objective. The gameplay feel nothing like mgs, mechanics. Nothing. The characters in the game are lame with no good personality. Quiet is plain annoying and very sexual in a bad way, worst ocelot yet. Kaz in fuckin* annoying. Goshh his voice. The bosses and boss battles are not epic nor Rememberable. There aren't really any bosses to begin with. Aren't there only like 3 so call boss fights??. Shouldn't had health bar. Lack of a codec moments. Long epic cutscenes. Building motherbase was the main focus and it was very annoying and boring. Having to capture soldiers and materials almost every time. Shi* get very repetitive . redundant. Its sick. Open world konami says? Worst choice possible. Makes it even more bad, unfun. Areas too big. Takes 1hr just to get to mission area just to do same shi*. And nothing to do while getting there. Just empty space, very quiet and boring. The only time you see enemies are in outposts. Which are no challenge and too easy. Dumb. The marking, reflex, wtf is this? Makes it no challenge and to easy. Makes it impossible to get caught. Every mgs has good ost. This one doesn't . instead we get hits from the 80s to listen to instead of good music within the game itself. Having to develope weapons, also bad choice. Take like 1 hr just for a new assault rifle. Instead of finding and collecting them. Chapter 2 was basically chapter 1 but harder difficulty? Very smart konami. Three lame endings instead of one good one? The story was very lame and pointless. A virus? Since when did mgs go resident evil? Doesn't complete the sage what so ever. Just makes it even more confusing. The game wasn't even completed at that. Idroid? The new shi* apple and android made this year? Funny how mgsv is in the 80s but has shi* that look like its from 2099. The game and online is just a complete waste of a game to the series. Shouldnt just finshed solid snake story. Best mgs yet kojima? Try worst my friend. Like 5 yrs for a bunch of crap . game so boring didnt even complete all side ops. Who wants too? Same over and over. And the main game is not worth being played over. And ive played ever mgs game like 100 times. mgs4 is by far better and a real mgs game . even peace walker is much better, more fun and captures all the mgs gameplay . Man I can go on forever. Who ever disagree has a lot to learn and see. No or not enough mgs experience. not really a mgs player, a real or old mgs fan, new to the game Or maybe just an over the top fanboy. And all of this is coming from a real true huge metal gear fan, since the mid 90s playing the first metal gear on the nintendo in the USA, till now. Gotten mostly all mg games on release. I Have all , beat all and played every mg games ever made multiple times. #1 fav series of all times. \m/
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Re: Why MGSV Is The Worst MGS and Completely Pointless (Spoilers)

Postby Switcheroo » Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:25 pm

Yup. I hated Peacewalker so much since it had such a crap story and the online was despicable but I think it came together better than MGSV did. The Co-op was definitely a win and the casual nature of the game overall was enjoyable. MGSV on the other hand showed all of its good scenes in the trailers and marketed it as a story it wasn't.
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Postby Race Akira » Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:46 pm

Peace walker wasn't the top best mgs game but it was very enjoyable imo. Had more fun features than the other big mgs games. The bosses weren't your average mgs types. But weren't fail imo. Gave more of a mech feeling then a supernatural feeling, which was pretty cool to me. Being a fan of robots and all. Can see more metal gear type fights other then the human type ones. The cqc, fun box features, side ops, etc were all very unique. But that can just be me. The story probably wasnt all there but still wasnt really that bad, it was good for a psp game. And I'm personally just very upset at mgsv. Never knew a metal gear game can ever be bad.
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Re: Why MGSV Is The Worst MGS and Completely Pointless (Spoilers)

Postby Riddlebox89 » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:19 am

Yeah, MGS5 sucks DILDO! Firing David Hayter, more retcons, "open world" crap in place of stealth, no more Codec... And don't even get me started on that dumb whore Quiet! But what do you expect after Piss Walker (The Boss coming back as a ROBOT!? Give me a break!) and Metal Queer Raiden...

To me, the MG Saga ended with MGS3. I consider MGS4 to be a good action movie (you watch action movies for the ACTION, not for the STORY, right?)... I was hoping they would remake MG1/2 -- as that's about the last thing to do -- but now it's crystal clear they're only gonna ruin it... BTW, why did they shut down that fan remake project? I guess it's because they're planning on making it themselves, sadly...

Actually, 1 more thing: remember how the Venom Snake "theories" were floating around long before the game came out...? Obviously, they were leaked on purpose (just like that Showfax MGS3 voice actor thing)!
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Postby Marwan » Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:55 pm

Yep I agree it is indeed the worst in the series. :(
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Re: Why MGSV Is The Worst MGS and Completely Pointless (Spoilers)

Postby Carlos » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:07 pm

I disagree, it is indeed my 2nd fav MGS
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